Orange gets beat down by France's Competition Council

Wed, 12/17/2008 - 9:59am — Quincy Pince-Nez
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Would AT&T's iPhone service be any better if the US had a similar policy as France's new ruling indicates?  It isn't just France either.  Apple is forced to sell an open iPhone in many other countries.  Maybe Verizon wouldn't charge $15 to send 200 SMS's?  Maybe Tmobile would offer a 1 year deal?  Or Sprint would charge less for mobile broadband (WiMAX?)   We can only wonder.

 

 

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Absolutely! I was over in the

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Absolutely! I was over in the UK for a 6 weeks and used an O2 sim card in an unlocked Curve, and for 20 pounds (then $40, not $30), I got 600 voice minutes, 1500 texts and unlimited blackberry data. Not to mention in Europe only the person making the call is charge for minutes, not also the recipient. And now after Jan 1 I should be able to do that with my 3G iPhone. I have to say the Euros have a us beat on this one for certain.

Orange Beauty!

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Beautiful teeth hers, uh!

engadget

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"i'd like to peel that orange," etc.

Verizon?

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I just don't see them building out a GSM network simply to be able to sell the iPhone. ;)

Verizon? !

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Because they would build an iphone with cdma! It's really soon about time for this to go down. Way to many customer's to ignore with just gsm. (also their network isn't so bad I hear).......

......correct me please if I'm in the wrong but I predict this year.

As the Competition council

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As the Competition council said, the customer was forced to stand on Orange's network.
But this decision was delivered due to a deep lack of competition within the french market : only three providers, that have already been sentenced to huge penalties for cartel.
The iPhone could have been unlocked, but it is considered to be expensive, and you had to get an Orange prepaid sim card to start to Apple device, even though you wanted to use it on SFR or Bouygues.

Furthermore, the decision highlights that exclusive deals with providers is not good for competition. (iPhone and Orange, Blackberry Storm and SFR)

"Competition"

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I don't know French law, but how can the government decide with whom a company chooses to do business? Is a corporation there NOT allowed to form strategic partnerships with a single partner company? And how is that supposed to encourage competition or protect the consumer?

Perhaps Apple doesn't want to agree to other French carriers' demands, or Apple doesn't like the quality of their networks. Perhaps Apple doesn't feel that all carriers can adequately support the product image or its feature set. Last time I looked, Apple was not a department of the French government. Should they not be able to determine the best way to sell their own products?

Consumers can choose from multiple smartphones from different carriers. Orange just happens to be the carrier that is carrying the iPhone in France. BTW, the claim that the Apple/Orange deal is a "serious and immediate damage to competition on the mobile market and to consumers" is a really nasty insult to Nokia, RIM, Sony Ericcson, LG, Motorola, Samsung and every other cellphone maker.

its hard to define these

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its hard to define these rules in one sentence. In the EU they are looking to have a fair market. Here the amount of dedicated applestores is so small, it doesnt even accoutn unless you live in paris or london. So if one carrier has the monopoly (yes) on selling a phone that is so powerful on the market, thats considered unfair. And i think that makes sense. Carriers have too much power anyways. But opening the iphone to multiple carriers from the start would probably result in dropping prices and since apple is known to not change prices EVER they wouldnt appreciate the competition among carriers.

Now that france is through with this and other coutries (switzerland, italy i think and others) are selling the iphone with multiple carriers, it will probably not be long until it becomes a subtle policy of the EU and gets through to good old germany.

cheers

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