Why did Apple omit 3G access hardware on the MacBook Air?

Submitted by admin on Sat, 01/26/2008 - 20:00.

high speed Bluetooth will

high speed Bluetooth will allow connection through new 3G iPhone.

But there is a LONG way

But there is a LONG way betwine the 3G phones that can get up to the full speed of 3G

You need a 3G modem for that, and the ines you can buy here in Denmark need 2 USB ports to run at 7.2MBit

It's not the speed that is the problem, but the power it needs is bigger than a standart USB port can deliver.

So I dout that a cell phone can delevier that, and run high speed bluetooth. and still last for a the time you need.

 

And most MacBookAir users probely also have iPhone, so no 3G via bluetooht there.

You hit the nail on its head

You hit the nail on its head - 3G modems are a huge battery drain.

They only want the iPod

They only want the iPod Touch/ iPhone/ unreleased iTablet to become their "mainstream mobile platform".

I think it's just a bad

I think it's just a bad business/design decision.

The room taken up by 3G, in

The room taken up by 3G, in a larger sense, is bigger than just the chip. You got antenna (it would have to be separate from the WiFi, or not?) and the battery to run it. Also the PCB space in the Air seems to be a a huge premium. So room could indeed be part of it. It isn't likely the whole story though. Because of their relationship with AT&T there might be some constraints, explicit or implicit, on rolling out a product that would work on a different cell network.

P.S.  An extra $23 part, just by itself, would represent %6 of their profits (assuming they are maintaining the traditional 20% margin). Nothing to sneeze at.

its probably business

its probably business strategy. they know that if you're willing to shell out the cash you'll probably buy the 3G version even though your laptop is only 9 months old

The reason was that the

The reason was that the iPhone doesn't have the chip. The MBA is so ultra portable that it would be able to be used as a 3G phone with appropriate headset/mic. A trivial exercise for 3rd party developers / hackers / unlockers if unsupported by Apple. Then the iPhone would be less desirable.

I don't think anyone has the

I don't think anyone has the fear that a laptop would be used as a substitute for a mobile telephone.

I'm 100% happy that the MBA

I'm 100% happy that the MBA does not have 3G.  I find it a positive selling point that there is so little techonology built into the MBA that will be outdated in a year or two. 

That said I do wish it had a gigabit ethernet jack since USB can't do gigabit speeds.

are you crazy?  seriously,

are you crazy?  seriously, exactly what is good about that?

if it smelled like Steve

if it smelled like Steve jobs farts, some Apple fanboy would find a reason to love it.  Just ignor, and move on...

This problem has been

This problem has been completely solved already.

The mobile networks well support 3G modem capabilities over bluetooth on virtually all 3G handsets.  Some also support USB.

In short, this is a moot discussion.  If you have a 3G handset with a data plan, you are already all set.  Buying a "modem only" device is simply a waste of money - its a way for cell phone providers to sell you a piece of junk that will become obsolete in 2 years - as thats their business model.

There's no need to throw power-consuming redundant hardware into the mix - hardware would need to support differing technologies and frequencies around the world.

And therefore, Apple doesn't have to choose one technology or provider.  I'm sure once the iPhone goes 3G, Apple's handset will support the same.

 

iphone sdk will allow edge

iphone sdk will allow edge connection while iphone is docked

No need to dock it, you can

No need to dock it, you can use ad-hoc wifi network. Or Bluetooth, like proper people.

because not all of us live

because not all of us live in the us! So we wouldnt be able to have the 3G benefits in other countries around the world. D'oh!

Hello All! It is really good

Hello All!

It is really good that MBA does not have the 3G modem installed. Do not forget that this kind of modem supposed to be super duper universal. In Europe most of operators using UMTS/HSDPA networks with frequency 2100 MHz but there is other options like 850 MHz (i.e. Australia) and 1900 MHz. USA operators in most cases using something based on CDMA2000 Rev. A (EV-DO). With this standard same story, many different frequencies starting 450 MHz.

Do not forget, it is travel device and USA is not only place to sell or travel around.

Besides, it is easier for Apple to keep unified platform across the world. So in case any troubles you can visit any Apple service point and have proper service. Just an example to give you an idea what i mean. My colleague brought HP laptop from US (i am living in Europe). Result is, he had some problems with his laptop. He was rejected with to service his laptop cause it is model which specific only for US market so they just do not have spares for it and to proceed with order will take up to 2-3 weeks. That is the story...

Besides you can have same 3G access using any modern mobile phone by NOKIA, Motorola or Sony Ericsson connected via Bluetooth...

Well is that more frequencys

Well is that more frequencys that big of a problem?

 

GSM is 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

An a single small phone can send on all of them (quit commen now at days, same phone to build and ship all over the world)

 

And my Nokia E51 has WCDMA 850/2100 MHz
 (and all the GMS frequencys)

So if you can get that in a phone, why not in a laptop.

why add so much to the price

why add so much to the price of it by including 3G in every one, while most people won't be using it?

and because you can get an external USB 3g modem (yes, even if you have to use a USB extension cable, that at lest some models (like the sierra wireless 881U have built-in batteries.

How is it that everyone loses their minds over things like this when they probably also go out and defend apple's included hardware is either forward-thinking ( like opting out of a floppy drive) or necessary to the user experience (firewire for external storage and DV input)?

i chose wimax in the poll

i chose wimax in the poll because i´d say wimax is already implemented and will can/be unlocked by 1,49 $ and 1,99 € in europe as it was with the elder macbooks´n pros with n-wifi
i´d wish that they unlock the mbp for gestures as in mba
yeah for free

cheers

9to5 is with you on this

9to5 is with you on this one!  Will someone please instal XP on the AIR so we can find out what hardware is in ther?

 

I suspect a Business model

I suspect a Business model issue.
The revenue sharing of the iPhone is such a mess out of US (users habits, regulations, etc... + huge amount of unlocked inside US), that I suspect Apple waits to sort all this out before any new use of GSM/Edge/3G module on anything Apple branded.
The room issue is not trivial either. It's not the chip, but the way to introduce a convenient slot for the sim card. But in my opinion this is just a secondary alibi.

We are not in an era that

We are not in an era that laptops are equiped with 3G and 3G network is not common everywhere yet.  In Canada, 3G is just starting and pricy.  If you want to surf the internet on a laptop using 3G, that will consume a huge amount of data usage and it will cost a lot with no ceiling.

I blame AT&T. I bet the

I blame AT&T.

I bet the exclusivity is NOT JUST iPhone, but all wireless.  If they want to do 3G, they have to partner with AT&T.  Since the carrier is not ready, why bother to load the HW?  Don't incur the costs until you can have an iPhone-like activation for 3G.

When Apple has 3G where they are happy with package size and energy efficiency, the SAME package will be put in iPhone and MBA.  And when AT&T has 3G that's worth a crap, you can buy an MBA with 3G, activate over iTunes, and have an AppleTax on your 3G MBA.

Steve Jobs said something

Steve Jobs said something about giving choice for wireless carriers being a problem if 3G were embedded. which really means that they should have put a slot in just as they have on the MBP for adding your own card.

In the USA we have choices from Sprint, Verizon and AT&T, Tmobile in terms of 3G broadband. There are probably new generation GSM that handle multi-frequency GSM, but then what do you do about Verizon/Vodaphone?

Intel is builing WiMAX into their chipset, but there is no nationwide deployment of WiMax towers or firms that you can sign up with for nationwide coverage. Perhaps some pockets of regional coverage, but clearwire or whoever has to step up.

But this could have been a BTO option for folks. But then you are really committed to GSM or CDMA. Since Apple is going 3G GSM anyway, that would have been the better option. Then at least you could choose between the US GSM providers.

Let's wait for the 700MHz

Let's wait for the 700MHz auction to see what will be "the next big thing".

3G is already obsolete! Many

3G is already obsolete!

Many CIO's of major companies cannot see the reason to pay the high monthly charges for 3G: When their people are travelling, they are almost always work during the day in an office with wireless access. So they don't need 3G.

This is something that the idiots that claim to be managers at Sprint have not yet learned: I only hope for their remaining employees sake they are not betting their company on 3G.

If they are stuck in an airport, most major airports offer WiFi access for a nominal charge, or you can get it for free in your airline club room if you have a long layover.

And when their company travellers stay in a hotel room at night, most CIO's require company employees to choose hotels that offer free WiFi access.

So where is the business case for 3G? There is not one, IMHO.

Why would Apple want to even offer WiMax/3G in any of their laptops?

Why do I need to pay for something that maybe only 1% of all business travellers will use?

Because it's just not

Because it's just not necessary... If I want to connect via 3.5G, I'll just connect via Bleutooth/My Nokia... We don't want apple to build in ADSL modems do we? Why would you build in stuff that's already available externally?

3G would cause problems with

3G would cause problems with the aerodynamics whilst using the Air as a frisbee

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