It turns out that Apple has developed the standard and was instrumental in bringing it on board over at Intel. Instrumental in this case means Steve Jobs aguing with Intel chief Paul Paul Otellini about getting the product into new motherboards.
10Gbs is fast. It is 10 times faster than Gigabit Ethernet (and is duplex meaning both tx and rx are 10Gb as the same time). That is also faster than the DisplayPort connector that connects Apple's displays. The video below shows a video card driving an HD monitor while a 2 GB file copy transpires in a few seconds.
The good news from Engadget is that Apple machines with this technology are to debut within a year - they say around the back to school season. A lower power version is due a year from then (in 2011) and would be a good fit for mobile devices like a tablet. The bus standard is expected to hit 100Gbs in the future as well.
In the meantime, it might also make a good dock connector-type port. It would allow USB/Firewire/Ethernet/DisplayPort all to run at full speed simultanously and would only require one plug.
Sun, 09/27/2009 - 7:14am — the Cappy (not verified)
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I'm not sure Engadget's article should be taken that Apple actually created this thing. It seems more likely that Apple came to intel and said “This is the kind of thing we have in mind. Please make it so.” And then they continued to be active it pushing it to be the kind of thing that could be used with every port.
It's possible that Apple made it, and then they brought it to intel and said, make this cheap & small and we'll use it everyplace. But intel surely deserves more credit that you're giving them, I think. (I stand to be corrected, depending on what facts eventually come out)
Why would be hard to believe that Apple did create this and decided to give it to Intel, so it could be pushed out as a standard faster? You have to remember, Apple has always been interested in standardizing external connections. Starting way back in 1987 they developed ADB (Apple Desktop Bus), which allowed you to connect just about everything to; mice, tablets, modems, printers, keyboards, etc. This was about ten years before USB. And then they developed FireWire and released it as a high performance bus standard (IEEE 1394). This too was designed to pull together several types of external ports.
So it really isn't hard to believe that Apple would be instrumental in developing this new bus.
Sun, 09/27/2009 - 3:47pm — the Cappy (not verified)
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I don't find it “hard to believe”. I know well how many innovations Apple's put out. I just caution people against finding it too easy to believe.
This doesn't look like Apple making something and then passing it off to be standardized. It's in intel's hands right now and still a year away. I suspect that, unlike FireWire, this will be a technology where Apple pushed that it be optical, and pushed hard that it had certain features, but intel made it actually happen. That's just how it looks to me at this very early stage.
Your example of FireWire is a nice one, by the way. Seems to me i remember that being announced from the beginning as being something Apple brought to life. As I say, I'm open to being proven wrong. I imagine we'll be hearing plenty of stories about who did what. I find it easy to think Apple had a role; it doesn't sound (so far) like the same role it had with FireWire. Fair enough?
who knows... im still waiting for a few other options in FW800 audio interfases...
Manufacturers have to keep up with the tecnology, but most important, they have to pay close atention to the consumers needs, i dont see myself buying a light peak flash memory drive if usb is doing just fine or purchasing another macpro with light peak if there isnt any audio interfase out there that takes advantage of that technology
IMO, that's why Apple would have passed the concept to Intel. Just like everything else they've been doing lately (WebKit, OpenCL, GCD, Mini DisplayPort, etc.), I think Apple learned their lesson that if they have something great but want it to actually go somewhere, other people have to want to use it to. So what do they do? Make it free/cheap, a standard, and sometimes open. FireWire cost too much for too long while Intel muscled USB following this "new" train of thought that people stop caring FW was better.
Hopefully things will be better this time around.
Frankly I don't care who came up with it, as long as it's as good and useful as they say it is and has the rest of the advantages of FireWire that they haven't mentioned yet.
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neat! first
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first?!?! what, are you a grade 1 student?
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It's just the start!
It begins at 10Gb/s and then scales up for the next ten years possibly reaching 100 Gb/s.
i want 1Gbps internet
i want 1Gbps internet connection, then bring on hard drives that can actually store information that fast.
I'm not sure Engadget's
I'm not sure Engadget's article should be taken that Apple actually created this thing. It seems more likely that Apple came to intel and said “This is the kind of thing we have in mind. Please make it so.” And then they continued to be active it pushing it to be the kind of thing that could be used with every port.
It's possible that Apple made it, and then they brought it to intel and said, make this cheap & small and we'll use it everyplace. But intel surely deserves more credit that you're giving them, I think. (I stand to be corrected, depending on what facts eventually come out)
Hard to believe!?
Why would be hard to believe that Apple did create this and decided to give it to Intel, so it could be pushed out as a standard faster? You have to remember, Apple has always been interested in standardizing external connections. Starting way back in 1987 they developed ADB (Apple Desktop Bus), which allowed you to connect just about everything to; mice, tablets, modems, printers, keyboards, etc. This was about ten years before USB. And then they developed FireWire and released it as a high performance bus standard (IEEE 1394). This too was designed to pull together several types of external ports.
So it really isn't hard to believe that Apple would be instrumental in developing this new bus.
I don't find it “hard to
I don't find it “hard to believe”. I know well how many innovations Apple's put out. I just caution people against finding it too easy to believe.
This doesn't look like Apple making something and then passing it off to be standardized. It's in intel's hands right now and still a year away. I suspect that, unlike FireWire, this will be a technology where Apple pushed that it be optical, and pushed hard that it had certain features, but intel made it actually happen. That's just how it looks to me at this very early stage.
Your example of FireWire is a nice one, by the way. Seems to me i remember that being announced from the beginning as being something Apple brought to life. As I say, I'm open to being proven wrong. I imagine we'll be hearing plenty of stories about who did what. I find it easy to think Apple had a role; it doesn't sound (so far) like the same role it had with FireWire. Fair enough?
who knows... im still waiting
who knows... im still waiting for a few other options in FW800 audio interfases...
Manufacturers have to keep up with the tecnology, but most important, they have to pay close atention to the consumers needs, i dont see myself buying a light peak flash memory drive if usb is doing just fine or purchasing another macpro with light peak if there isnt any audio interfase out there that takes advantage of that technology
IMO, that's why Apple would
IMO, that's why Apple would have passed the concept to Intel. Just like everything else they've been doing lately (WebKit, OpenCL, GCD, Mini DisplayPort, etc.), I think Apple learned their lesson that if they have something great but want it to actually go somewhere, other people have to want to use it to. So what do they do? Make it free/cheap, a standard, and sometimes open. FireWire cost too much for too long while Intel muscled USB following this "new" train of thought that people stop caring FW was better.
Hopefully things will be better this time around.
Frankly I don't care who came up with it, as long as it's as good and useful as they say it is and has the rest of the advantages of FireWire that they haven't mentioned yet.