iPhone SDK details emerge from iPod touch update?

Tue, 01/22/2008 - 07:12 — Chauncey Dupree

The iPhone SDK is due next month and there is a lot of speculation on exactly how it will all work.  Stevo has said he is fond of the Nokia model and we've heard comparisons to the Tmobile Sidekick's delivery system.

We know that Apple has stockholder interests to protect and will likely take a cut of the cheddar on apps that it delivers.  How picky Apple is about what type of apps get on the platform is another story entirely.  We already know that, for whatever reason, Apple isn't fond of putting iChat-type of Instant Messaging on the platform.  Whether this is to encourage the lucative SMS services or to save AT&T some terrabytes on bandwidth is not really certain.  The question is whether they will extend this blockage to the SDK. 

For instance we know that a lot of VOIP providers would like to be on the iPhone.  Will Apple let this fly?  Doubtful. 

Other services like Sling, which could be a competitor to AppleTV might also be in the doghouse.

Some pieces of the puzzle might be starting to come together on the technical details of the system Apple will employ to deliver these developer applications.  The five new apps for the iPod touch were delivered by a system that is likely the basis for the upcoming mobile application delivery model.

Berble mentions:

...The application download arrives with an .ipa extension, which in reality is a zipped archive of files which is Apples' common method of application storage for OSX.

Now it appears that the new iPod touch applications are not actually included in the downloaded file, they seem to be included in the 1.1.3 update itself and the download just includes codes to unlock them.

As expected everything is encrypted so as not to make things too easy for the pirates. Of course this doesn't answer all the questions we are itching to find out like...

More to come as we try to piece the iPhone SDK model together over the next month

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As you know, the iPhone was

As you know, the iPhone was rushed to the market. It originally had apps for all purposes, including iChat, Finder, etc. They should all be announced simultaneously with the SDK.

Apple better up the ante

Apple better up the ante with providing more apps next month.  Video capture, mms, voice dialing and dial by typepad.  I am going to be pissed if I have to pay a third party to provide simple Smart Phone feature WinMo has had for years.

" I am going to be pissed if

" I am going to be pissed if I have to pay a third party to provide simple Smart Phone feature WinMo has had for years."

Would you be just as/even more pissed if such a feature wasn't released at all? 

Fingers crossed for someone

Fingers crossed for someone figuring out how to get MS Exchange Server email access into the iPhone through the SDK.  Sling and IM are nice, but insignificant when something like Exchange integration would open up the phone to millions of business users.

MS Exchange support is

MS Exchange support is already afforded, of sorts, as long as IMAP is enabled on the exchange server.

It would be nice to see someone come out with an app that communicates through the exchange webmail component (in the same way Entourage does).

New apps (like MMS, Voice

New apps (like MMS, Voice Memo Recording, Video Recording, etc) would be nice, but what I really want is copy & paste, and system-wide Search.  But I'm guessing these two things would be more of an OS-addon than an app.  I'm also fearful that Apple will only make Copy & Paste and Search available on the 2nd gen iPhone, without a way for first-gen owners to get them.  I can totally see them doing that, and it would be so freakin' typical Apple if they did.

i didnt think at&t in states

i didnt think at&t in states had mms?, ive never used it here in the uk, neither does anyone i know.

Geez I've got a bad feeling

Geez I've got a bad feeling about the impending SDK release.  I think it is going to be far from open, far from easy in terms of getting good usable apps on to the phone.  The business model will get in the way once again.  The pattern seems to definitely be shifting from a customer-centric business to a stockholder-centric business...forcing users to pay for software updates which might as well be given free, locking out users of older versions for no technical reasons, ...blocking user-developed applications because they step on the toes of some of your other revenue sources.  The confusing mess of the movie/tv rental/buying restrictions (see the matrix of what you can and can't do) is a bit of a joke. Maybe this is inevitable given their meteoric return to the tech stage over the last few years, but I just think that Apple are going in too many different directions at once, with no clear policy on how they are going to handle what is surely an endless struggle of shareholders vs consumers.  There has to be a balance, and if they don't find the right balance to satisfy both parties, everybody will lose in the end. signed, An undeniable Apple "fanboy" who's a little bit worried about what's driving Steve. 

gee, don't get tooo upset -

gee, don't get tooo upset - so far Apple has just released updates for the iPhone and Apple TV that bring new features to those units at no charge whatsoever, since these are subscription modeled items with regards to their bookkeeping. This bodes well.

iPod Touch owners go begging, however, so it looks like it will depend on the individual item. This bodes, er ... not as well.

As for the movie rental restrictions, while not yet the ideal, do add some nice portable options for carrying/viewing compared to others that are out there. Apple doesn't hold all the cards in that one. And shareware on the computer will probably always be there but on the new wireless stuff, it does look like Apple is planning to be the gatekeeper ...

Apple won't be able to please all of the people all of the time, and the dance between shareholder/fanbase will go on. Fortunately, there is a certain amount of overlap in those two categories.

Now it appears that the new

Now it appears that the new iPod touch applications are not actually included in the downloaded file, they seem to be included in the 1.1.3 update itself and the download just includes codes to unlock them.

That explains why the 1.1.3 update took much longer than the "January Update". I thought that was odd ...

This report better be false.

This report better be false. People had complained about the iPod being monopolistic (using large stretches of logic), but the scenarios provided here are getting very close to how Microsoft abused its Windows monopolies.

Intentionally crippling your product so that it won't run software from a company that competes with other products you sell is just bad form. I cannot see this happening.

I suspect that the iTunes distribution model will work similar to the podcasting model Apple has, or their software links in the Downloads sections of their website. They will provide links to the software in iTunes, and the company or distributor will provide the bandwidth for the download.

"This better be false!!! or

"This better be false!!! or I'll... I'll... I'll"

Once and for all. Monopoly means that people who want to buy some alternative product/service is prohibited. The fact that I can't by a Ford from GM or install GM parts on my Ford doesn't make Ford a monopoly.

The fact that you cannot run software x on hardware y does not make it a monopoly. It may make it a reason to buy a competitor. The 'Apple as monopoly' meme is just FUD from the actual monopoly.

"Other services like Sling,

"Other services like Sling, which could be a competitor to AppleTV might also be in the doghouse."

Like Sling, but not Sling per se. Sling doesn't directly compete with AppleTV, unless of course, which is why I never bought the first gen ATV, Apple is planning on competing with Sling. Just imagine how much happier we'd all be if we could watch our AppleTV from wherever we were, remotely. I suppose that's the thinking of being on the road with your laptop and syncing when you get back to the house, but if you offer up the service for service sake, Stevo, people will love you for it, right?

Obviously, it would be great if we could get a couple of streams like Joost + Hulu through AppleTV until NBC gets their poop together and gets back onto the Tunes (and it looks like Zucker realizes he's a complete bafoon and will reverse his decision to pull content) sooner than later.

I can't imagine Apple to be

I can't imagine Apple to be too too strict, with this...

But they are Apple... and FairPlay has yet to be licensed for 4 years now!

The stockholders shouldn't even enter Apple's mind, if they want a serious, yet decent Palm-based business. The words revenue and iPod Touch/Phone can go to H.E.-double and burn, when it comes to 3rd party apps.

I want to see place-shifting apps from SlingMedia, Sony (Location Free) and HAVA for their respective base stations. I use Location Free and am actively e-mailing and begging Sony & TAXAN for a iPod Touch client.

iChat should've already been released for both devices. I don't think it will hurt AT&T... If anything, it would spark data usage levels higher and guarantee AT&T a decent payday.

I'm still coming to terms with the fact that my iPod Touch is really just a Palm Pilot missing applications that the SDK will allow for...

As to protecting stock

As to protecting stock holder interest, I do hope stock holders realize that a lot of us will loose interest in the iPhone/Touch product lines if the SDK is to restrictive.   It is in the stock holders and Apple best interest to have a SDK that appeals to a wide range of users.   Further the idea of being roped into one distributuion method is un acceptable!

 

More than anything though I just wish Apple would reveal the SDK so that those of us on the fence could make a decision on which way to jump.

"As to protecting stock

"As to protecting stock holder interest, I do hope stock holders realize that a lot of us will loose interest in the iPhone/Touch product lines if the SDK is to restrictive."

Really, cos everyone has lapped iPhone/Touch product line up so far, with absolutely no guarantee of an SDK.

My guess is that's your own personal opinion/belief, but most people who own one of the devices probably hasn't even got a clue how to spell SDK, let alone knows what one is.

No real need for an SDK if

No real need for an SDK if you are even a half way decent web developer. Just build a web app and stop crying about wanting an SDK.

True! Check out this really

True!
Check out this really cool template:
http://www.journyx.com/jpint/

I like the idea of an SDK

I like the idea of an SDK but somehow I I think there will be a fee either to get the SDK or the apps. but I think they are smart to think if we charge them then everyone will jailbreak. but I mean they are always after da money. maybe one day UNICEF will get into the app business bit until then its all apple.

its february todaywhere the

its february todaywhere the hell is the sdk

TomTom satnav would bea

TomTom satnav would bea killer app, with bluetooth enabled to connect to an external pocket satnav reciever, All maps programs loaded onto HD. PLEEEAAAASSSE TOMTOM are you listening!!

i just have to say one -

i just have to say one - maybe pointless - thing:
on youtube, if you werent connected to the internet (with an itouch) before 1.1.3, what did the video say if you tried to play any video?
now it says something like "youtube requires a wifi or edge connection"
that and the new ipod touch dock thing makes me think the ipod touch software has totally changed to iphone software.

is this possible?

Rumer has it that tomorrow

Rumer has it that tomorrow is the big day for the SDK.
Does any one know any thing different?

that rumor is false...the

that rumor is false...the set date is the 26 after doing a lot of research ( google and cross referencing ) the 26 is the correct date. as to what the sdk will include,,,, hahah good luck with that! SDK = security download kit ...its only going to put yo1 step further away from ever being able to jail break your phone and they will surely embed something in there to prevent apps that are not apple certified meaning "  any app that the cannot charge you a monthly fee for! sdk why are all you guys so excited,,, your just putting your self in a whole im not downloading that piece of shit.. even if they paid me to...think about it ppl  are willing to pay 600$ for a 4gb iphone just beacuse they know it can be unlocked...so hes going to give you want you want only diffrence you will be charged monthly,,,or app will be disabled..if your smart you will just read about it when it comes out..!

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