I really want an iphone and I am month to month on my contract right now.... but I still hesitate for this very reason.

I live in google apps,  Mail calendar docs talk. 

The thing that I really think about is my contact list.  I have a great contact list in gmail and while I can import that to address book, I would prefer to be able to manage that "real" time on my phone.

While the gphone may or maynot be as slick as the iphone... do you think that it will be live "real" time with my gmail, gcal, contacts?

If so, that is going to win me over ..just because of the productivity increase of that alone.

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Yes, I want this too! Problem is that googleCalendar is a little more sophisticated than iCal on the iPodTouch/iPhone what with the multiple calendars and the colouring etc. But some form of live two-way sync has to be sorted.

I currently use SyncML2iPhone which has 1 way syncing with Google Calendar but it could be so much better.

who is to say we won't be seeing google apps on the iphone?? i would almost guaruntee they have downloaded the sdk and are working on native office apps. why would you think otherwise?

And what about iCalServer... They got it on Leopard server but they don't support it on the iPhone, instead they only rely on the competitor

I understood the announcements from Apple such that they offer *both* their own sync/push implementations *and* Microsoft Exchange compatability, although at some stages of the presentation it became unclear, whether the announced features were *only* part of Exchange, or *also* part of Echange. I still hope for the *both* variant.

Well I too would assume that Google has downloaded the SDK...  I'd also assume from the demo that they'll have all the google apps running in under two weeks... LOL

I think there are two possiblities why Google wasn't highlighted:

1) Apple is pissed off over Android and is giving Google the cold shoulder

or

2) Apple choose to make this event all about bussiness and the enterprise, which is all about exchange. 

There are lots of individuals that choose to use google apps, and undoubtably some enterprises are migrating there as well, but by and large enterprises need and want an exchange server solution, so that's what they highlighted.   

It's crazy to think of how many localized search apps are going to hit the iphone the day the SDK comes out...

TOTALLY agree, this is a must and I think it would change things while helping both Apple and Google.

Trust Google people they have until June to develop everything you want. You have to figure the Mail, Google Reader, Calendar, and Documents teams all have the SDK and all already 2,000 plus lines into the code at this point. I would put good money on the idea that some of this was already finished two weeks ago when "engineers visited Apple to see what they can do in 2 weeks" you can bet a Google Engineer was there amongst others. We only saw the choice apps that Jobs thought were polished enough and impressive enough to go live. Which is why we saw two third party games were featured when one would have gotten the point across.

Well, with the iFund and John Doerr thing, don't you think that even more Google connections would have been a bit over the top?

I love my iPhone but my boss hates his. He gets hundreds of emails every day and misses the ability to delete junk mail in one go like on a blackberry. Right now you have to touch twice for every email. With a blackberry you can scroll through a list while selecting a ton at a time and then hit delete. Apple needs to fix this.

Not all companies are as paranoid as others. While maybe not in your case, a lot of large companies are very concerned with leakage of sensitive information and do not look favoritly on using external storage for documents, calendars and others. Those same companies would also prohibit use of web mail services as to minimize the ability of its employees to bring into the company malware. Depending on the line of business you are in, there are laws that require that all communications from an employee be recorded, which can not happen if you use a web mail service, POP or iMAP service that does not go thru the exchange server.

There are all sorts of sizes of companies and each have different levels of paranoia. A lot of what is being implemented in the iPhone goes along the lines of the security capabilities of the Blackberry and it is designed to serve the majority of the paranoid companies.

At the MOST paranoid companies:
Apple has yet to release all the details, but expect that companies will issue the iPhone, they will pay for the AT&T service and they will lock the phones so that only those applications they deem safe can b e installed and installed only from an internal and designated server. Expect all the data also to be encrypted and only allow email from the exchange server. Also expect that all iPhones will be required to have a password and that the device will be automatically erased in the event that someone enters the password incorrectly N number of times. For those companies ....... Google Apps would be considered dangerous.

Your company may not care about the same issues and may allow you to use personal devices and as many email sources as you like.

We are not all covered by the same rules and regulations.

Google apps? Great, but what about AutoCAD?