Will Apple ever put Flash on the iPod/iPhone?
The news these days seems to go back and forth. Adobe says they are moving on Flash for the iPhone. Meanwhile Apple's Webkit team are working on ways around Flash using new CSS standards.
Apple, of course, has been silent on the matter. Last we heard, Steve Jobs said last year that Flash in its current form doesn't run well on the iPhone hardware and Flash Lite wasn't a compelling offer. Adobe plans to have Flash running at full speed on newer ARM hardware in the second half of this year, about the same time everyone expects some new iPhone hardware to come out. That means Android and Windows Mobile will probably support Flash. Maybe Blackberry and Palm Pre too. Can Apple afford to wait on the very new CSS/HTML standards to develop? So, what do you think? Will iPhone 3.0 allow Flash?
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There is no doubt in my mind that Adobe could build a rudimentary Flash port for the iPhone. I'd be shocked if they don't have a rudimentary iPhone port running at their offices today.
But that isn't the problem. The problem is for Flash to run in a sane manner on a platform substantially smaller than a typical desktop computer, and for a Flash-capable phone to retain it's battery life. Adobe seems to hate to talk about this issue. NOBODY wants Flash if it means a one hour battery life.
Adobe needs to step up to the plate and implement simple user controls that eliminate the potential for resource over-utilization. Adobe needs to give the user an easy, immediate, and always available way to block Flash ads and to control Flash-driven resource hogs.
Whenever a Flash app sits on my desktop browser, I often see my CPU run at 50% - even if nothing is happening. If Adobe can't get Flash to be efficient on the desktop, I doubt they can to it right on any smartphone.
I definately agree with you 100%. Who wants Flash when it means jepardizing your battery life!
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Hmm. The webkit CSS animation has been available for the public to play around with for at least half a year. Just not a standard that's been picked up yet.
I personally hope the CSS animation will be picked up, because it's downright smart - Flash is a mess.
CSS = brains, Flash = brawn.
My money would be on Adobe picking them selves up and making an optimized, brainy, sleak Flash and CSS animation not being picked up.
Peace :)
If it really is coming...
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Apple: We're not interested in flash on the iPhone for
Adobe: Well I've been meaning to talk to you about how much it "costs" for us to keep developing Photoshop and most other apps for OSX.
Apple: Hmmm...have I shown you our latest hardware advances for the iPhone?
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If this does happen, lets not forget that MS is going to want in on the action with Silverlight. Flash is not the only game in town anymore. I've also wondered if Apple isn't brewing their own similar graphics system into Quicktime. Quicktime has been really quiet for some time now.
Apple: We're not interested in flash on the iPhone for .
Adobe: Well I've been meaning to talk to you about how much it "costs" for us to keep developing Photoshop and most other apps for OSX.
Apple: Hmmm, don't you make a boatload of money on Photoshop for the Mac? Your profits will plummet. And we have a compelling alternative waiting in the wings - if you leave our market, we'll out-do you in the few remaining markets you have left. And we'll include SilverLight on the Mac by default. Don't fuck with us.
There isn't an alternative to PS. If for some reason Adobe decides to kill CS on OS X there will be mass exodus to Windows. Mac without Adobe apps is dead for creative community. Honestly, I'm working with moving image and even though I wouldn't touch Premiere even with a ten foot pole I still need PS and Illustrator (I'm fine without AE since I'm more of a Flame/Inferno guy but many will go nuts if AE isn't available for Mac). Lets face it, CS is more important to many users then Apple hardware and OS X -> Apple will lose customers. I'm not a fanboy but I've been using Mac since early days of DTP and I wouldn't hesitate to switch (I wouldn't have a choice) if Adobe drops Mac. Oh, and I'm on my third iPhone and I would love to see Flash on it.
You must be up out yo mind. I think you are forgetting Windoze runs great on a Mac.
what i don't get is why flash requires the iPhone to be twice as thick.
Because Flash requires a ton of battery power and a ton of memory, resulting in the need for a much bigger battery and more DRAM capacity.
I hope flash doesn't make it to the iphone, not only for all the obvious reasons, but the iphone could push these new css standards into the mainstream. Screw adobe and their inefficient bloat.
A few months ago these recent announcements of Apple and Adobe finally coming together to come up with a solution for flash would have been more intriguing news. But now I think the app store is making this a less relevant issue.
Pretty much anything I need to do on the web that is flashed based; there is now an app equivalent that does the job even better. The new ustream.tv app is a primary example of this, since most (all?) streaming video sites use flash.
Granted it will still be welcomed news when / if a flash solution is announced but I'm not nearly as concerned about getting flash enabled now as I was a few months ago.
well, apple will most likely either delay their release of the iphone in june (to some later date) or will not come close to flash this year. maybe an update sometime later for something along the lines of flash, but i do not expect to see flash on phones until at least 2half of next year, but technology is constantly developing. what about that 8 hour battery in the 17in MBP? same technology into iPhone, give it 2 core processor? either way, i've waited to get an iphone (mainly cause my contract doesn't expire until dec this year) and any revisions will be gladly accepted by me. ETA to iPhone (for me) 10 months, i can't wait. :D
Personally I would like to see flash for the iPhone but not as a web plugin. I think Adobe AIR for iPhone apps would be much more beneficial to Apple.