If anyone updates their iPhone this time and complains, they are fucking morons. Seriously...can we learn a lesson or are we lemmings?

OK hackers - ready set go - I estimate there will be a hack in 3 weeks.

I would stay away from iTunes 7.5 also, we never know how they can/will lock us back...

Now I may very well be wrong here, and please correct me if I am, but the issue I have with all this is that as great as it is that those of us who don't upgrade get to keep our lovely apps / themes / etc., hasn't past experience showed that after the new firmware the development of almost all the apps is largely stifled until the awesome people from the dev team work their magic.

Now I have a hacked 'phone, and at the moment I'm not exactly looking at upgrading, but if history proves true, I'm thinking i'll prob. sit it out with a restore and upgrade until they bring 1.1.2 into line - there really isn't anything as far as thrid party apps go that really appeals to me. Navizon is an excellent concept but is pointless to me because of my location. Apollo is great, but i'm not addicted enough to IM to bother with running it often (same goes for colloquy). iBlackjack/Mines/FiveDice/Lights Off are good to pass the time, but ultimately too easy for me. The only app I really use often is "Light", though a blank safari window is ultimately just as easy.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but the third part development at the moment just seems too "Proof of Concept" for me at the moment. Hopefully we'll see the situation improve around Feb. once the official SDK comes out...

Its good to see the short-sighted idiots who think like this: "I don't care. I don't want my iPhone running 3rd party apps" are fast becoming the minority. Hopefully this will push Apple to speed up the release of their own SDK. Or at least release a Jailbreak utility for anyone that wants one in the interim.

I voted "I don't care. I don't want my iPhone running 3rd party apps".

But NOT because I don't want 3rd party apps. But because I don't really care because apple will release SDK in jan/feb. But there was no such thing in the voting poll so it was kind of hard to vote..

Correct me if I'm wrong, but. 1.1.2 isn't out yet. Nor is iTunes 7.5. I'm really super glad I followed this link from my newsreader for absolutely 0 news content. woot.

Feel sorry for us in the UK. I was looking forward to picking up an iPhone on Friday and jailbreaking it. Now I will have to wait until 1.1.2 is done before I can use it. Unless of course I can downgrade to 1.1.1 and jailbreak it......

Tell me about it. I'm locked into an Orange UK contract for the next 12 months (>£300 buyout) and was looking forward to picking up an iPhone on Friday. Doesn't look like that's going to be possible for the time being - my hope is that the upgrade is released before Friday and that a downgrade option is available.

If I wasn't with Orange I'd move to O2 in a heartbeat, but buying out that contract is just not an option for the foreseeable future.

It's a PHONE. Well, I'd love third party apps and I'd love a choice beyond ATT, but I am perfectly happy with my ATT service and I get it -- No third party apps yet. I plan to download and install the new update because I am not as crazed as you all are. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for an exclusive arrangement between ATT & Apple, even if I would prefer more choices. I also have to say that i am not a "subset" of iPhone users -- you are the subset of iphone users.

You can have the international keyboards now in v1.1.1 by tweaking the M68AP.plist.  At the very top of the plist, you'll see International... change it from False to True.  Reboot your iphone and you will now have a new option in Settings / General  called International.  You can change your default language AND change keyboards by checking which keyboards you want to show up.
If this is the only change to v1.1.2, then it certainly won't be worth upgrading!  You can have international support now in v1.1.1.!
 
Cheers,
Sealos

while downgrading my iphone it crashed and i had to restore to 1.1.2 through itunes...i hope a new crack comes out soon

Just like King James I tried concieted's jailbreak package for 1.1.2 and then upgraded to 1.1.2 the problem was that I forgot to have ssh installed so i could not put installer back on, however i did accomplish to have a jailbroken iphone for a little bit. I then tried to downgrade and was not successful after many tries, so I am still gonna try and hack it but for the time being seems like I'm shit out of luck I'll give it a few weeks before someone else figures it out or myself. PS tiff exploit doesnt work either. If anybody figures out how to get root access using the iphone in disk mode please post.

I don't recommend upgrading but I can tell you I don't have any crashing problems as of yet like i had in 1.1.1. overall not to worried about it if you do it by accident it doesnt matter much if your patient and in january/feb native apps will start to show with support from steve himself.

GOOD NEWS!

iPod Touch 1.1.2 already hacked!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/09/apple-posts-ipod-touch-1-1-2-update/

I don't understand. I may just be an old guy, but I don't feel old yet. I want an appliance to be an appliance. This means I am more then happy to have a cell phone/PDA (yes I use an iphone) that is reliable, predictable, and warranted by the manufacturer. If this means I am limited to ajax based web pages for third party applications, so be it.

How often do you reboot your microwave oven? Never? That is because it is a closed system. Why is the OS X experience better then Vista? Because it runs on a tightly controlled semi-closed hardware platform.

I don't understand why people think Apple has an obligation to open the iphone to all developers? From my point of view this will just reduce the reliability of the product. Apple has released an iphone software upgrade almost once a month. This is fast enough for me.

In conclusion, before anything else, I want my iphone to work. So I am happy to use ajax applications that run in a locked down sandbox. I cannot afford to risk the failure of my business appliance, i.e. my iphone because a part time programmer has a bug in his/her program.

Give apple a break. The iphone is an appliance. And a darn good one at that.

All comments welcome. Just one mans thoughts.

FYI iToner still works with 1.1.2.

The Touch has been hacked and since the Touch and iPhone share the same OS I expect it's going to be a matter of days rather than weeks.

I think apple is also coming with another update in Nov. 29 it all depends how fast people break this one. Cause they are like that debbie downers. All i can say now apple can't stop people from hacking they got people in the states and in europe... apple lost it. last wait and see if anybody from the other side will break it.

When will we get flash and WPA enterprise?  Too much to ask?

hells bells... i'm just excited that darn thing is out and running. it seems like we take technology so for granted. out of the gate for but a few months, and already everybody is clammering for more. don't get me wrong, i'm all about jailbreaking and adding 3rd party applications, altho admittedly most of them are pretty basic and useless. however, i'm beginning to think it'd be best to just wait on apple. we all know a 16gb iphone is coming out, as well as an iphone update, new tools and menus, and a crapload of goodies. so either be content to sit tight, or be content to deal with the complications arising from hacking and having things before others. but don't choose one side and then complain about it...